Its called the Universal National Service Act of 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2008 and maybe this is what William (Bill) Ayers wants out of his friends presidency.
The Universal National Service Act of 2003 (H.R. 163, S. 89) is a bill to resume the military draft in the United States, introduced in the 2003 session of the United States House of Representatives. The bill would have provided that, as early as June 2005, young men and women ages 18-26 could be called to service. Section 6 of the bill does not include college enrollment in the list of valid deferments and postponements of being drafted.
The measure was introduced by representative Charles Rangel, a leader in the Democratic Party and co-sponsored by five other Democrats. On October 5, 2004, Republicans called for a vote on the bill. The bill was considered under a motion to suspend the rules, which required a two-thirds vote for passage for the roll call vote to take place. The roll call vote on the bill was 2 in favor, 402 against. The only Members voting “aye” were Jack Murtha and Pete Stark.
The Universal National Service Act would require all United States residents between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six to perform a two-year period of national service. The period of national service would be performed either as a member of an active or reserve component of the uniformed services or in a civilian capacity that promotes the national defense, including national or community service and homeland security, as determined by the President. The President would also be responsible for determining the number of persons whose service would be in the military and for selecting the individuals to be inducted for military service
The bill was brought up again in 2006, 2007 and 2008.
Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both expressed support for such legislation. During an MTV/MySpace forum on February 19th, 2008, Hillary Clinton, when asked about education expenses, stated: “… that’s why I’m in favor of two years of national service, where you could earn up to $10,000 a year doing national service and go right into helping you pay for college.” In a follow up comment, Barack Obama then stated: “… one of the things that I’veproposed, for example, is that I will givea $4000 tuition credit – every student, every year – so that they are not being loaded up with enormous debts, uh, but there will be a community service – a national service component. The military could be one way for you to get this $4000 tuition credit.
Barack Obama, “The point is, I think it is important for young people to serve.”
There is only one purpose I can think of for this new drafted civilian military.
The KGB in the Soviet Union.
This is Russian President Vladimir Putin attending a wreath laying ceremony at the monument for fallen Russian soldiers, in Vienna, Austria, 24 May 2007. The KGB’s function is illustrated by its official emblem: bearing bothshield and sword, the KGB was an organization with a military hierarchy aimed at providing national defense, specifically the defence of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
Hitlers Gestapo.
February and March, 1942. Student protests were calling for an end to the Nazi regime. These included the non-violent resistance of Hans and Sophie Scholl, two leaders of the White Rose student group. However, resistance groups and those who were in moral or political opposition to the Nazis were stalled by the fear of reprisals from the Gestapo. In fact, reprisals did come in response to the protests. Fearful of an internal overthrow, the forces of Himmler and the Gestapo were unleashed on the opposition.
The first five months of 1943 witnessed thousands of arrests and executions as the Gestapo exercised their powers over the German public. Student opposition leaders were executed in late February, and a major opposition organization, the Oster Circle, was destroyed in April, 1943.
Seems the Democrats and Barack Obama want their own personal military and Barack Obama has already expressed his intention force a draft to institute it.
Sound like I made this up? Here’s a reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_Initiative
And here’s a copy of the bill H.R.163
Barack Obama and Charlie Rangel on the Draft.
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I’m conservative too. I find that this bill will help with national security because it will free more motivated men to go and fight where motivation is needed rather than sit at home while unmotivated conscripts fight and get killed. It will also provide a better trained pool in case a militia call is raised. Therefore, this bill is NOT evil. I have read the bill and support it.
I’m trying to recall Obama’s “willingness to serve?” When was that exactly???….he’s even had to practice SALUTING his own Miltary guardians on Air Force One and “his” hellicoptors….I guess with all of the SERVING that he did, he has the “right” to require it again, kind of like Bill Clinton did….hmmmmm I feel bad for those in the military now with him as the FEARFUL LEADER….
Wow! what nerve! In case some people forget, serving in our nations government (in any capacity) is an act of civil service. And that is all that this bill calls for, civil service, not necessarily the military. Which is more than most “Americans” can claim to have done for their country. Really, and this is not a cheap shot, but when was the last time any of us did anything for our country? I know when mine was, it was a little over a year ago, and it lasted the six years prior to that. As far as I’m concerned, you shouldn’t be considered a citizen until you do a few years of civil service, at least two anyway. Barack Obama is still serving our country, he risks his life every damn day in case you have noticed, HE’S THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. This means nothing to me, but to many, it makes him a great big target.
The way I see it; Don’t knock a man who is doing more than you are; Don’t bitch about the rules of a country that you are obviously too piss ant scared to defend; and don’t talk about public service if you don’t know what it is. If you don’t like that, STFU and get out.
The executive branch of the government is given the authority to oversee the military. This bill creates a draft for a personal military for the congress. It will be a catastrophy if it passes. Congress can’t manage their own cafeteria.
It is a personal choice (which you Jon most likely support in the case of a womans right to choose abortion) to join the military now. This bill will force people with no choice to serve congress.
It was a little late last night when I read the posts above, and they kinda rubbed me the wrong way, sorry if my opinions came off with a bit much bravado, But I honestly don’t see what the issue should be with being required to do something for your country. Yes, Congress does tend to be a little ridiculous at times, but surely these programs would not be directed solely by Congress, I am sure there would be some system in place to at least hamper a fair amount of the tom-foolery that our upper echelons of the government would be likely to try to impose. I think that America’s youth could be greatly benefited by being given opportunities such as these. It would even open more public service positions up to individuals who would likely never even look for such positions.
Most people have never even thought about it, but these positions range from working for city sanitation and your local Motor Vehicle Division, all the way up to Border Patrol and countless other federal agencies. Jobs that America needs filled, most of which are even salaried positions! Working at DMV may not sound like a great job, but it’s a great opportunity for someone who never bothered to go further than a high school education.
Yes, this plan is not ideal, but it times like these what is? With the fear of looming depression on the forefront of many lower income (and even jobless) families minds, opportunities this would create for a steady income should be a reason to rejoice, not reject.
“I honestly don’t see what the issue should be with being required to do something for your country”
The problem is that this country was founded on being able to make your own decisions. If the government is hiring and offering various positions, that’s awesome! This is different, the government is specifically REQUIRING MILITARY SERVICE. Obama himself, along with one of his former appointees, expressed their wish to set up a civilian military force. When you say this probably doesn’t necessarily mean military service, you’re thinking of the GIVE act. I believe it’s H.R.1388 and is still going through congress. In it’s present state the GIVE act doesn’t require anything, but expresses intent to establish required community service for everyone from middle-schoolers to the Elderly. The constitution blatantly prohibits this except when community service is deemed due punishment for a crime.
“The Constitution blatantly prohibits this except when community service is deemed due punishment for a crime.” -Brandon Garcia
The Constitution is a guide not fact, as many lawyers and judges know that how you interpret one thing in the Constitution can be varied by the interpreter. It also has amendments and revisions so it is not concrete by any nature. Clearly your view of what the Constitution refers to criminal serving the community is done as punishment–but is that the same as getting placed in a mandatory civil duty that pays?
Clearly no, punishment is work without reward and deprivation whereas this civil service act would bring jobs and money. As the previous poster John Cunningham stated,”with the fear of looming depression on the forefront of many lower income (and even jobless) families minds, opportunities this would create for a steady income should be a reason to rejoice, not reject.”
There are tremendous benefits for our kids to get up off the couch and learn of what goes on outside their neighborhood, as well as earning a bit of money for doing so. If all the youth had to join we may have more voluntary service for full time military, or as John already said, more work awareness for jobs previously unexploited by lower wage earners. This is a chance for kids to open up their narrow view of the world and experience things outside of school like how to cope in a disaster or teamwork in putting things together, as well as taking pride in what their country is.
The idea of the act is to get the citizens more involved and care about our country. Throwing a few coppers at the government and calling things good doesn’t make you value what you have, if anything paying money for a cause is a way of distancing yourself from the cause. The true value in the civil service act is by creating, building, reshaping, and working on something–basically getting your hands dirty.
This isn’t a socialism or a new Natzi party movement, but a way to build patriotism and pride for our disconnected youth of this generation and to ensure future generations can share in our new and stronger country as well.
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